| Yes sorry another one of these threads.... But think about this for a second, let's say santa.... I mean God was real. God created everything so why would he create gay people? Also since they are gay, they are going to burn in hell for all eternity, so why are you putting so much effort into killing them and making their life so miserable. At least let them have some fun before that happens. And the most important thing I've been dying to know, how does that person being gay affect you? Unless you are closest gay. Even if all your neighbors are gay, I doubt they are doing anything to bother you. I'm just tired of the religious republican nut jobs bringing their fairy tales into the government and other bullshit they think is real. Oh and I almost forget, the "gay people must be put to death" is in the OLD testament. And I won't go into how they all break all the other laws in the bible but just decide to cheery pick at it anyway. |
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| Apology accepted. Gay people are not separately created from other people. We are all just people. Why the dissonance? Gay people are going to burn in hell for all eternity? That is not for YOU to judge. If you carry on about religious people and their judging, why are you judging? Why are you judging religious people in even a worse manner than the way you say they judge gay people? Other people being gay does not bother me at all, I have gay friends and work colleagues who I treat them as they treat me. As a christian, I am not allowed to judge them. Gays DO bother me, when they self-righteously come into my church and my children's schools and DEMAND that they take over the church and ram their Marxist-infested ideologies down our throats under threat of legal action. Cherry picking indeed. |
| idk about you but the closer a girl gets to looking like ronald mcdonald, the more aroused i become. CAV where can we cast our eyes to @PoruMairu who thinks of himself a member of the true church. Helion. |
Sorakaa said: let's say santa.... I mean God was real. HAHAHAHA. I apologize, but I love religious jokes. xDDD Ok, back to topic, being religious =/= being a homophobe. My mom is catholic and she accepts gay people. However, I do agree that using religious arguments to "prove" that homosexuality is wrong isn't the best option. The Bible is full of contradictions itself, so knowing what "God wanted" is quite difficult. |
 Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
j0x said: well not surprising since the 2 biggest religion islam and christianity are teaching and encouraging homophobia anyway since its part of their holy text like the bible There are churches that tolerate homosexuality, unlike Islam. Also, Christianity in the modern age unlike Islam in general does not condone killing of them don't let the few deranged pastors fool you. |
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| I wouldn't say He "created" gay people, but rather, they chose that lifestyle on their own and made their own choice. You're born a gender, not a sexuality. |
 ♔ caught in the wonder ♔ |
| When it comes to LGBT, there are only 2 things I will stand my ground. 1 is asexual and pan does not exist. 2 is LGBT can't have gay church weddings. Civil weddings is fine. Other than that I'm in favour of gays as a whole. The whole fear thing stems from traditional paranoia anyway. |
| Because they want to feel superior to someone. Gem said: I wouldn't say He "created" gay people, but rather, they chose that lifestyle on their own and made their own choice. You're born a gender, not a sexuality. But if God knows all that will happen which comes with omnipotence and omnipresence he knew that would be the case so he did create a gay person. |
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traed said: But if God knows all that will happen which comes with omnipotence and omnipresence he knew that would be the case so he did create a gay person. Like I said, it's not that He created a gay person, but rather he created a person and they ended up choosing that lifestyle. It's choice they made. Now, knowing this, they have the choice of whether or not they want to follow God or not. By continuing their lifestyle, then obviously they're not following God. As a result, they know the consequences of their actions. Yeah it's true, he does know that would be the case, so the decision is up to them. |
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| I have no idea. Probably one of the reasons I've slowly backed away from my religion. My thing is, its their life, so it doesn't pertain to me. Why would I waste so much energy showing hatred toward strangers? If you go to heaven, good for you, that's all that should matter. |
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Gem said: traed said: But if God knows all that will happen which comes with omnipotence and omnipresence he knew that would be the case so he did create a gay person. Like I said, it's not that He created a gay person, but rather he created a person and they ended up choosing that lifestyle. It's choice they made. Now, knowing this, they have the choice of whether or not they want to follow God or not. By continuing their lifestyle, then obviously they're not following God. As a result, they know the consequences of their actions. Yeah it's true, he does know that would be the case, so the decision is up to them. They do not have a choice because it is predeterministic by God that thy would become gay. |
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traed said: They do not have a choice because it is predeterministic by God that thy would become gay. Are you sure you're not just making that assumption on your own? lol. . . . Anyways, I didn't come here to argue, so I'll leave it at that. If you really want to hear my opinion, then feel free to PM me. |
♔ caught in the wonder ♔ |
Gem said: traed said: They do not have a choice because it is predeterministic by God that thy would become gay. Are you sure you're not just making that assumption on your own? lol. . . . Anyways, I didn't come here to argue, so I'll leave it at that. If you really want to hear my opinion, then feel free to PM me. No, plenty of religious people believe in predeterminism. |
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traed said: Gem said: Like I said, it's not that He created a gay person, but rather he created a person and they ended up choosing that lifestyle. It's choice they made. Now, knowing this, they have the choice of whether or not they want to follow God or not. By continuing their lifestyle, then obviously they're not following God. As a result, they know the consequences of their actions. Yeah it's true, he does know that would be the case, so the decision is up to them. They do not have a choice because it is predeterministic by God that thy would become gay. In my philosophy class, there was a theory that you have free choice, it's just that whatever choice you choose, God know's what's ahead. Like if someone is watching you make them a bowl of cereal, they know you have to put milk and cereal in there, but you choose what comes first. If you decide milk first, then that person knows the cereal comes next. Something like that. Sorry if that's confusing. |
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C4NDYCE said: In my philosophy class, there was a theory that you have free choice, it's just that whatever choice you choose, God know's what's ahead. Like if someone is watching you make them a bowl of cereal, they know you have to put milk and cereal in there, but you choose what comes first. If you decide milk first, then that person knows the cereal comes next. Something like that. Sorry if that's confusing. I don't really prescribe to predeterminim anyway. I just was making an argument for those who may beleive in it. |
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| I'm not sure about other religion but in my religion, god created human in "pair" and that is boys and girls... And god tell us to continue the human population with that pair only.. That is one of god rules.. I'm raised in a family with religion as a highest priority but they tell me that I must not hate anyone even if they're in a totally wrong way but I must be friend with them as I usually do and slowly guide them... |
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| A lot of this unneeded hate from both ends comes heavily from people not being educated in what they're talking about. Speaking for Christianity's sake, we believe in "hate the sin, not the sinner". We don't hate gays, we just see it as a sin. However, in the end, we all commit boatloads of sins, so there's no reason to hate gays for that. Hell, there are plenty of Christians that are homosexuals themselves. As for those against Christianity, remember that your real enemy are the extremists, not the religion itself. RedRoseFring said: Religion is a fantastic excuse to act on this feeling as well. Natural disgust in most cases. I mean I'm not gonna lie, as a straight man, two dudes doing it grosses me out, but that's the extent of my negative feelings towards homosexuality. |
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Gem said: traed said: But if God knows all that will happen which comes with omnipotence and omnipresence he knew that would be the case so he did create a gay person. Like I said, it's not that He created a gay person, but rather he created a person and they ended up choosing that lifestyle. It's choice they made. Now, knowing this, they have the choice of whether or not they want to follow God or not. By continuing their lifestyle, then obviously they're not following God. As a result, they know the consequences of their actions. Yeah it's true, he does know that would be the case, so the decision is up to them. @Gem You must be joking right? Why would anyone choose to be gay? Especially in countries where you get killed for being gay. Are you even gay yourself? It's a pretty well-known fact that most homosexuals try to suppress their homosexuality and try to force themselves into being straight, but then give up because sexuality isn't a choice. |
| Being gay is not anything punishable. Having intercourse with a male is. That is the difference. |
| I mean if I was a girl I'd probably choose to be gay. |
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Deadpool said: Yarub said: Being gay is not anything punishable. Having intercourse with a male is. That is the difference. A man having consensual intercourse with another man is punishable by death but a man having intercourse with an unwilling woman is normal, gotchu. Please elaborate, when the hell did I say such a thing? Are you hallucinating? |
Korrvo said: I tried, it's a not as good as it might seems. Actually it's even awkward.I mean if I was a girl I'd probably choose to be gay. |
Sorakaa said: Yes sorry another one of these threads.... But think about this for a second, let's say santa.... I mean God was real. God created everything so why would he create gay people? Have you ever been wrote a program, or a game? If you did, you know never mind how good are you, you will make some mistakes, what we call: bugs. Bugs are those dates what arent work fine. What I want to say, if you are programing some million people, some will be bugged. + Saying religions people hate gays (I guess you mean the abrahamics - jew, christian, islam) isn't correct. You don't have to be religious to hate gays. And I guess hate is a hard marker. "Don't like" would be better. |
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| We used to be not so many Earth back in the day when the religions were on their picks. Now that we're way more on Earth it becomes more acceptable. |
| Weirdly enough lesbiannism is more accepted than masculine homosexuality. I don't want to do coffee shop psychology, but I often read "I don't care about gays, as long as they don't approach me". Aren't men afraid of rape? |
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Gem said: Sure, in the bible that would seem like how it was phrased, but in real life people don't choose to be gay. If someone is bisexual then they have the choice between being gay and being straight, but most of us have one sex we are able to romantically attach to and are not emotionally able to do the same for the other sex. If you truly believe that being gay is a choice then choose to be gay. It isn't a choice if you aren't able to make it. For one week only find guys attractive and try to ask one out. If you are unable to do this then it proves that you cannot choose to be gay or not. Just like how no one in their right mind would choose to be autistic or a pedophile out of their own free will one would choose to be gay if they didn't have any genetic predisposition towards it. If you're told to choose between pushing a red button and a blue button but with the way the buttons are positioned you are only physically able to put the blue button did you really have a choice?I wouldn't say He "created" gay people, but rather, they chose that lifestyle on their own and made their own choice. You're born a gender, not a sexuality. Also, please remember that there are many gay people who still marry someone of the opposite sex because of social pressure. There are some people I know who have even had kids and then divorced to marry someone of the same sex. This isn't just about the choice they make. If they've already married a woman why can't they simply choose to love women? They're already married to one, but they're not able to love them romantically in the same way they love men. There also used to be a common rule "all priests are gay" because priests aren't allowed to marry anyone which works perfectly for gay Christians because their only other options would be to not marry despite not being a priest, which would seem odd, or to marry a woman they can't love. |
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RedRoseFring said: Natural disgust in most cases. That's why gays and other different sexualities have been looked down upon throughout history with only mild forms of pederastry being accepted. You'll find the same response for many things considered unnatural. As for religious reasons, it's usually the same thing why other sexualities and attractions like pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, and things like promiscuity and prostitution are frowned upon. Also, depending on which one you are referencing, it doesn't say gay people go to hell, but those that practice homosexuality. You can have an attraction and not act upon it, which many seem to forget or just be ignorant or stupid about. Natural disgust is only through smell and taste because your body is naturally repelled by certain things programmed into your dna. All other forms of disgust are from your thought process and are not natural because much of it comes from environment rather than genetics alone. |
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Korrvo said: I mean if I was a girl I'd probably choose to be gay. There's a lot of heterosexual women who wish they were lesbians, so they claim to be lesbian, sleeps with some women, but then go back to men again when they understand that they can't become a lesbian. |
HooHiraiBunny said: because setting 2 girls kiss is hot..........Weirdly enough lesbiannism is more accepted than masculine homosexuality. I don't want to do coffee shop psychology, but I often read "I don't care about gays, as long as they don't approach me". Aren't men afraid of rape? |
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Sorakaa said: What's so sexy about it? You know they're not gonna sleep with you.because setting 2 girls kiss is hot.......... |
HooHiraiBunny said: so? Porn is hot and you don't sleep with them.Sorakaa said: What's so sexy about it? You know they're not gonna sleep with you.because setting 2 girls kiss is hot.......... |
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Sorakaa said: With whom, the guys or the girls?so? Porn is hot and you don't sleep with them. ... |
| Sexual Preference is not merely a choice, but an affirmation of one's natural preference in sex. You can delude yourself into willing to participate on a homosexual relationship, but you will eventually feel whether you're really into it or you don't. It's just a matter of taste, after all. No, homosexuality is never caused from volition, it is actually biologically proven that there are homosexuals, quite an anomaly in the genetics part. But it's still all natural. So you can argue that "God created homos" since it came from natural genes, if you argue that God created genetics itself. It's also the same things as the problem of evil: Why God needs to make such a justice system which you gain some sins then you'll be condemned to death, or somewhat a reward by following his rules and earn the treasured paradise... is there really a point, if he's benevolent and merciful to all of us? Why do the religious need to honor such a God of consequences if he had his motive of making our lives shittier and painful? We ought to riot against him, after all. He created us without our consent just to be judged because... he created us. tl;dr... well the religious are just as stupid as their God. |
JomsJun 20, 2016 4:24 AM
| God said a lot of times to his Angels and Prophets when they asked stupid ass questions like yours "You don't know what We know" so apparently he has his reasons. Some things should just not be questioned. |
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traed said: RedRoseFring said: Natural disgust in most cases. That's why gays and other different sexualities have been looked down upon throughout history with only mild forms of pederastry being accepted. You'll find the same response for many things considered unnatural. As for religious reasons, it's usually the same thing why other sexualities and attractions like pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, and things like promiscuity and prostitution are frowned upon. Also, depending on which one you are referencing, it doesn't say gay people go to hell, but those that practice homosexuality. You can have an attraction and not act upon it, which many seem to forget or just be ignorant or stupid about. Natural disgust is only through smell and taste because your body is naturally repelled by certain things programmed into your dna. All other forms of disgust are from your thought process and are not natural because much of it comes from environment rather than genetics alone. I didn't mean physical disgust, I meant "natural" in the sense of an expected reaction to things considered gross or unnatural, whether physical or mental. It should be clear that most disgust with gay people is mental since they've most likely never seen any gay acts themselves. It's the same way someone would be repulsed by the idea of eating nasty stuff they've never seen or smelt before, or stuff like furries, etc. |
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